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Post by askthepizzaguy on Jul 10, 2013 3:19:31 GMT
It's a fairly good bet that gnarlycharlie is not BillMc's mason partner.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 10, 2013 4:04:44 GMT
Hmmm, I know you want us to stay out of your fight to the death....BUT, maybe we can play with it a little bit and gain me some Town cred....
Things we don't know....
Is there a town Tracker/Watcher, and what did they see last night???
I can play this one of two ways.
If you get caught with the noose around your neck late in the day, I can throw out the, "Hey I like this, since you were one of two people visiting Gnarly type nail in your coffin"
OR, I can try and push some suspicion on Jaade...
So if you are going to push that you investigated Gnarly last night, I think it might be a good idea for me to push on you and let me reveal that you were at Gnarly's LN.
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Post by askthepizzaguy on Jul 10, 2013 5:19:31 GMT
Why would you push on me? You would actually be corroborating my story.
This is bad because Gnarly will suggest you watched the Scum Blocker. Which will be me or Jaade.
As such, I recommend you do not reveal you watched Gnarly last night.... at least until I die.
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Post by askthepizzaguy on Jul 10, 2013 5:35:26 GMT
Even if this claim blows up in my face, I am laughing hysterically at the evilness of it all.
I am a bad widdle boy.
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Post by askthepizzaguy on Jul 10, 2013 5:46:53 GMT
Hey, it's entirely possible the town vigilante comes after me tonight.
As such, I recommend you watch me die. Then you'll have a dead detective, a dead doctor, an outed mason, and an outed vigilante.
I promise you, it's worth the trade at this point. I am ready to die for the glory of the scums.
Qapla'!
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Post by askthepizzaguy on Jul 10, 2013 5:51:39 GMT
Why would you push on me? You would actually be corroborating my story. This is bad because Gnarly will suggest you watched the Scum Blocker. Which will be me or Jaade. As such, I recommend you do not reveal you watched Gnarly last night.... at least until I die. When gnarly flips town, you can reveal that Jaade and I visited him last night, therefore one of us is the scum roleblocker. That will make me the clear lynch the very next day after we murder Jaade. But it's still so worth it. And it makes you look good, and explains why you're not dead yet. There were more tempting targets.
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Post by askthepizzaguy on Jul 10, 2013 5:52:27 GMT
However, there's no night discussion, so you need to keep a lid on it until Day Three at the earliest.
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Post by suburbanplankton on Jul 10, 2013 16:02:15 GMT
Pizza, I have a feeling you're going down Today...and I may just have to lead the way.
Now, I suppose this may be a case of PIS on my part, but I just don't find your claim, in the circumstances you posted it, to be very believable. So I'm going to push you on it. Hopefully we can wind up stifling conversation Today and make this the "Pizza vs. gnarly show".
I do think that it would be a good idea for dizzy to reveal she saw you visit gnarly before either of you are killed, as it will seem a lot more believable if she comes out with it while it's still relevant. But exactly when, and in what context, I'm not sure yet.
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Post by askthepizzaguy on Jul 10, 2013 16:18:01 GMT
Pizza, I have a feeling you're going down Today...and I may just have to lead the way. Now, I suppose this may be a case of PIS on my part, but I just don't find your claim, in the circumstances you posted it, to be very believable. So I'm going to push you on it. Hopefully we can wind up stifling conversation Today and make this the " Pizza vs. gnarly show". I do think that it would be a good idea for dizzy to reveal she saw you visit gnarly before either of you are killed, as it will seem a lot more believable if she comes out with it while it's still relevant. But exactly when, and in what context, I'm not sure yet. I recommend delaying this for a while. The Day is five days long. Let's make it harder for them to piece it all together in a single round. If Dizzy reveals, and reveals everyone she saw (I seriously do not recommend this) then it's easy enough for Jaade to conclude either myself, or Dizzy, are the scum blocker, and would conclude that I am based on Dizzy being the Watcher. As such, if she reveals, she should reveal that she saw me at gnarly's location last night. But that's still very scummy to admit. She will be admitting to watching the claimed detective who wasn't murdered. As such, it reads like she's trying to spot the town doctor, which is what she was trying to do. I don't recommend it, and if she does do it, she should do it very late in the round. Too late for them to reverse their positions, let's say. - If I am already going down, then there's no need for her to claim, because it will arouse further suspicion on her.
- If I am not, then there's no need for her to claim the information too early, which could cause a reversal we don't want.
By all means question me. The more people questioning me, the more it looks like scum are questioning my credibility.
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Post by askthepizzaguy on Jul 10, 2013 17:38:03 GMT
I think Pleonast is a mason.
Either Pleonast or Mahaloth. One or the other, I feel, has to be a mason.
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Post by askthepizzaguy on Jul 10, 2013 17:42:44 GMT
I think Cookies is not a mason.
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Post by askthepizzaguy on Jul 10, 2013 17:57:26 GMT
Regardless, these are just feelings. I think that Pleonast's play has been too cautious and observant. Feels like a mason play.
We must defeat the town doctor as soon as possible, but what will be even more dangerous than either the doctor, or gnarlycharlie, is the mason team, if any. Remember, it's BillMc, therefore I wouldn't put it past him to completely invent the masons.
If we wait too long to destroy the mason team, the consequence will be an endgame where we have one murder and a bloc of townies who all know where not to vote.
Nothing is so dangerous. A vigilante might actually hit a townie. A detective might scan the godfather or a townie or can be blocked at night. A doctor can protect the wrong person.
A mason team will never, ever vote for themselves to death. As such, when we must rely on the lynch to win, we will be at a severe disadvantage unless the masons are disrupted.
Please spend as much time as possible this round, on this thread, discussing BillMc's possible mason partners and why. We have to "scum-hunt" the masons while we're all still here and alive.
Finding them is the key to winning, now that we've discovered the detective, a mason, a possible doctor, and we have a FAIR idea where the vigilante will strike tonight if they are a town vigilante.
As such, I have every confidence that DizzyMrsLizzy will survive the day, and furthermore, discover the vigilante.
What remains, in order for us to win, is to finish exposing the masons, but doing that by voting for them is extremely ill-advised.
We must observe every player who could be a mason, and rate them as being likely or unlikely or impossible.
Please give your best effort. This is truly our most important counter strategy to this town setup. Complacency will result in a forced checkmate that is far too easy for the town to spot. We cannot afford that.
We've got five days. Let's get hunting and discussing, both here and publicly. We need to get the town to react, I think the masons will be spottable, or if not, the non-masons will behave in a way that is decidedly non-mason, and let us solve it by process of elimination.
Who's with me?
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Post by askthepizzaguy on Jul 10, 2013 18:02:29 GMT
Colby might be a town watcher or tracker. He may have some reason to disbelieve Dizzy beyond mere feelings.
He also might be a mason.
I think.... after I get some rest, I will scour the threads looking for breadcrumbs. Masons may have breadcrumbed each other. I will look specifically for anyone who mentions Bill, or makes references which could be masonic.
And I'll read BillMc's contributions with a fine-toothed comb as well.
I am pretty good at decoding subtle things, so I volunteer for that task. If I solve Pleonast's breadcrumb and the mason breadcrumb both in one game, I might end up being some kind of legend, so I have to try!
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Post by texcat on Jul 10, 2013 18:12:58 GMT
Why did Pleo go on and on and on about your result? It makes me suspect that he knows there is a 3rd party.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 10, 2013 18:16:59 GMT
I've been pulling long hours lately. So my brain functionality is at a low at the moment. I'm working the next 12 hrs but will check in tomorrow
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