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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 24, 2013 18:28:19 GMT
And I wish I could "Track" It would make it easier to catch someone, although I wouldn't have caught Colby without being able to Watch.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 24, 2013 18:29:43 GMT
Suburban, remember I'm still a scum newbie here. Play out some scenerios for me. Give me some ideas of how I should procede if I'm alone in the AM. Things I'd like a second set of thoughts on... - Order of kills - Should I confirm Jaade? - Should I announce I watched Colby tomorrow....Should I throw someone under the bus? Or just play it straight? What if we are both alive in the morning... I also would love for you to weigh in on some of these before night is up just incase Colby shoots at one of us tonight!
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Post by CatInASuit on Jul 24, 2013 18:36:51 GMT
You still have just under 1/2 hour.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 24, 2013 19:37:47 GMT
Yay we are alive!!!!
And yay. We killed Jaade!!!
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 24, 2013 20:41:25 GMT
I have an idea that may just work!!! Mwah ha ha
Let me think and get back to you!!!
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Post by suburbanplankton on Jul 24, 2013 20:47:27 GMT
I'm all ears at this point.
I'm going to have to claim, because there's no point in delaying now. And I'll have to claim Vanilla unless one of us can come up with a good power that could have been kept a complete secret this far into the game.
So, if I'm Vanilla Town, that leaves Cookies and you as potential Scum, with Colby a possible Serial Killer. So I need a good reason to vote for her over you. And I've got a pretty good one, in that her power is so far completely unverified.
I'll hold off for a bit, in case anything I was going to post would conflict with your plan.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 24, 2013 21:08:44 GMT
Okay here's my thoughts
3. DarkCookies - claimed vote charger 8. Suburban Plankton - no claim?
6. colby - claimed vig 10. dizzymrslizzy - claimed watcher
4. meeko - mason 7. mahaloth - mason 9. BillMc - mason
We need to shoot into the Mason pool.
I propose we get Cookies to Die today....
We'll be left with
3 Town 2 Scum 1 Unknown
Hopefully N4 both us and Colby shoots into the Masons and we hit 2
Leaving us at 2 Scum 1 Town 1 Unknown
It's our only chance!
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 24, 2013 21:10:08 GMT
The thing I was thinking of, was you can claim Tracker, and you tracked Cookies to Jaade....IDK if you'll get away with it though.
I think saying you are Vanilla is too "easy" and won't be believable...
The issue with you claiming Tracker is once Cookies Dies, then you will be shot by Colby. We pretty much need 2 Town deaths again tonight. It's the only way.
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Post by suburbanplankton on Jul 24, 2013 21:16:53 GMT
I see two potential issues with me claiming Tracker, though I haven't given the matter a whole lot of thought, so I can't say how problematic they are:
Who have I tracked, and what have I seen? Why haven't I said anything up until now?
I can't claim to have seen anything that might have been 'significant', or else I then have to explain why I didn't speak up earlier. And if I haven't seen anything 'good', then my claim is just about as empty as if I claim Vanilla.
Let me look at what's transpired so far, and see if I can come up with something plausible.
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Post by suburbanplankton on Jul 24, 2013 21:49:02 GMT
OK, here's what I've got...
Scenario 1: I claim Tracker, say that I saw Cookies kill Jaade, and we manage to get Cookies lynched Today.
I'm outed as a Liar. Colby kills me Tonight. You either kill Colby, or a Mason.
If you kill Colby, it's you vs. 3 Masons. You lose.
So you kill a Mason. Then it's you, Colby, and 2 Confirmed Town to begin Day 5. Colby and you vote for each other. If the Masons vote for you, we lose. If the Masons vote for Colby, then we go into Night 5 with you and 2 Masons. You kill one of them, and it's a stalemate.
Scenario 2: I either claim Vanilla, or claim Tracker but with non-significant results, and we push (possibly with the Masons' help) to lynch Colby, either as Scum or as a Serial Killer.
Tonight, we have 3 Masons, Cookies, and 2 Scum. We kill one of the Masons.
We start Day 5 with 2 Confirmed Town, 2 Scum, and Cookies. If we can get Cookies lynched, we win. If one of us gets lynched, we lose.
The potential wrench in the works today is how Cookies' power works. If the extra vote she gave to Mahaloth is visible in a mid-Day vote count, then I'd be outed as a liar if I said she killed Jaade. But if I hold off too long, then people are going to ask why I waited so long to say "Hey everyone! Cookies is Scum!" As it is, I've almost waited too long already I can always claim I was just waiting for some discussion in hopes that a potential 4th Scum would out themselves before I ended the Day's discussion with my result...but that excuse only works for so long...
Personally, I vote for Scenario 2, for a couple reasons. First, there's less of a chance that I'll say something that can be flatly contradicted. Second, it gives us a very small chance to pull out a victory, where I think Scenario 1 gives us a draw at best.
Whaddaya think?
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 24, 2013 23:44:19 GMT
I too think at this point scenario 2 is safer. Regardless we have a very small chance at winning here. It's all luck. So however you feel comfortable playing it I'm game and will support you!
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 24, 2013 23:45:24 GMT
Scenario 1 also is a win
2 masons an me on N5. I kill one and then it's 1 town 1 scum.
Our win con is having equal numbers on both sides
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 25, 2013 15:01:56 GMT
CIAS, really the Vote charge is visible to everyone and isn't part of the EOD tally?
Ugh
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Post by suburbanplankton on Jul 25, 2013 16:02:53 GMT
Yeah...meaning it's going to be really hard to get her lynched as Scum. She could still possibly be third party, but I'd find it hard to believe that any Mod would put a lone PFK in the game without any sort of offensive power, so even if we could argue that she's not Town, she can't really be a win-stealer.
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Post by suburbanplankton on Jul 29, 2013 15:39:06 GMT
Well, poo.
It looks like you're on your own from here. And on a side note, it looks like maybe I need to take a break from Mafia for a while, because I don't seem to be able to get through an entire game without real-life dragging me away for days at a time. I don't think my having been here would have ultimately made any difference in this game, but I hate disappearing on my team...
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